tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post8446426696328379232..comments2024-03-28T20:05:01.952-04:00Comments on Maddy's Ramblings: The Chinese Fishing Nets at KochiMaddyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-39965708098339200612018-01-26T14:16:44.375-05:002018-01-26T14:16:44.375-05:00Very detailed account from different sources. Love...Very detailed account from different sources. Love the fact that you put an effort to dig these out. I was researching myself and came across your post. I think you put me at peace for now. :)rockjohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11830629031633873035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-24335134112503952082017-04-24T07:33:21.317-04:002017-04-24T07:33:21.317-04:00Thanks for sharing an informative post! Great sour...Thanks for sharing an informative post! Great source of information about chinese nets. It's very interesting to read this kind of articles.<br />Keep on sharing!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17918372726103943085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-41053883252448210032017-04-03T05:50:32.228-04:002017-04-03T05:50:32.228-04:00Expanding my comment there is one resource : http:...Expanding my comment there is one resource : http://www.garwareropes.com/fisheries.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17449911182092928790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-12804908687669736442017-01-30T05:01:25.608-05:002017-01-30T05:01:25.608-05:00Thanks for sharing uses of Chinese Fishing Nets.Yo...Thanks for sharing uses of Chinese Fishing Nets.You've made a really valuable discovery. I too had the same curiosity about these fishing nets.Though by a carefull evaluation of malayalam Lexicon, you might find some words of Chinese etymology, generally your arguments says.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17918372726103943085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-787541443951590942017-01-14T11:18:03.913-05:002017-01-14T11:18:03.913-05:00thanks rajesh and yes that would be right ...
he t...thanks rajesh and yes that would be right ...<br />he taught me 70-74 at SSKZM<br />you can read the ma huan book on the net or peruse my history blogsite<br />http://historicalleys.blogspot.com/search/label/Malabar%20-%20Chinese%20trade<br />https://books.google.com/books?id=DjQ9AAAAIAAJMaddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-64072105672991980092017-01-14T01:44:11.453-05:002017-01-14T01:44:11.453-05:00always enjoyed reading your blog. today on specifi...always enjoyed reading your blog. today on specific purpose of ma huan on kochi i stumbled on your blog. were we both taught by late CKC of SSK? He taught me circa 86.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04476729421482258846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-2063534869262518612013-09-03T08:48:35.879-04:002013-09-03T08:48:35.879-04:00Thanks Simon.
I am not sure if there is any connec...Thanks Simon.<br />I am not sure if there is any connection, but one could speculate.<br />The Trabucco is possibly more recent, as it is dated to the 18th century. Such being the case, it could be the handiwork of one of the Italian adventurers who sailed out in the early Portuguese vessels to the Indies and later China. They may have replicated the Kochi idea in Italy...Just speculation...Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-73618690709110913802013-09-03T08:42:34.570-04:002013-09-03T08:42:34.570-04:00What about the Italian fishing nets of the Adriati...What about the Italian fishing nets of the Adriatic coast? Any connection? See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrabuccoSimonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08932755483062128077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-60203596779806134302012-06-25T13:14:27.763-04:002012-06-25T13:14:27.763-04:00thanks georgie..
go ahead
rgdsthanks georgie..<br />go ahead<br />rgdsMaddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-87749683133210755332012-06-25T12:48:41.888-04:002012-06-25T12:48:41.888-04:00Hi Mr Maddy,
I was wondering if I could link this ...Hi Mr Maddy,<br />I was wondering if I could link this page back to my blogpost about the chinese nets.<br />Best<br />GeorgieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-18958969942487020252010-10-05T02:08:39.684-04:002010-10-05T02:08:39.684-04:00Very informative article, Maddy. I thought idiyapp...Very informative article, Maddy. I thought idiyappam's home is Sri Lanka. :)<br /><br />(Came here though the link given in Kerala Tourism's Facebook page)Bindhu Unnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15188876952238550620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-38732316366181391172010-08-14T09:56:30.049-04:002010-08-14T09:56:30.049-04:00thanks viv , Sarahband deepdown..
and viv - I thi...thanks viv , Sarahband deepdown..<br /><br />and viv - I think idiyappam originated form the far east - probably Indonesia, Philippines or Thailand.Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-69338235530925811792010-08-08T06:15:24.117-04:002010-08-08T06:15:24.117-04:00Being from Kerala, I've often wondered about t...Being from Kerala, I've often wondered about the origin of the nets. Thankyou for the exceptionally illuminating research!Sarah Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03305130267142945205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-65330822187512736612010-08-06T20:17:59.228-04:002010-08-06T20:17:59.228-04:00Viv - I wonder and doubt if 'idiyappam' re...Viv - I wonder and doubt if 'idiyappam' really did orginate in china coz the present day chinese i know haven't ever eaten anything close to idiyappam. They love it when i serve it to them and i tell them it's quite similar to their rice noodles but they vigoursly shake their heads in protest! Maybe they are just not really aware of their ancestors contribution to the coasts of BMPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05304345607512243332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-34576003714605849892010-08-06T15:06:01.750-04:002010-08-06T15:06:01.750-04:00Thanks Maddy! You've made a really valuable di...Thanks Maddy! You've made a really valuable discovery. I too had the same curiosity about these fishing nets. And I'm from Fort Cochin.deepdownehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12011955251392138333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-61213154010131427042010-08-05T16:01:27.859-04:002010-08-05T16:01:27.859-04:00Great article about chinese nets. This year I had ...Great article about chinese nets. This year I had an oppotunity to visit Fort Kochi & admire these nets at sunset. There's another chinese technique to carry goods. Two baskets are attached to a bamboo & carried on one's shoulder.Twenty years ago fish vendors of Malabar used this & were called "Kaavukaran".Read that "Idiyappam" originates from China. <br /Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04052362228728685952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-88922666681256832872010-08-04T19:12:11.401-04:002010-08-04T19:12:11.401-04:00thanks bernard..
cheena vala, cheena chatti, chee...thanks bernard..<br /><br />cheena vala, cheena chatti, cheeni bharani, cheeni mulaku, cheeni padakam...the list goes on and then you can top it with a lot of food items as well..<br /><br />Chinese potato or koorka is a fantastic root - my favorite actually!!but no story behind these things...nevertheless an article may be interesting,let me seeMaddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-76788204774024574922010-08-04T19:09:45.615-04:002010-08-04T19:09:45.615-04:00thanks PNS & Hari..
i have only seen videos o...thanks PNS & Hari..<br /><br />i have only seen videos of how the cheena vala works, have not seen it upfront myself.Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-72256917359326143842010-08-04T19:09:06.969-04:002010-08-04T19:09:06.969-04:00thanks Debby - hope you enjoyed your visit. now yo...thanks Debby - hope you enjoyed your visit. now you know some history behind what you saw...Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-64219012621650138592010-08-04T00:46:02.275-04:002010-08-04T00:46:02.275-04:00Hi,
So, finally your version of the Chinese net st...Hi,<br />So, finally your version of the Chinese net story is published ! Good to see this. Though by a carefull evaluation of malayalam Lexicon, you might find some words of Chinese etymology, generally your arguments stays. The word Kanji - Porridge is an example. Another interesting lead is the story of koorkka! OR Chinese potaoes (Coleus parviflorus). Hope you can develop this lead.<br />Bernardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05276923783433308329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-90065594831921045582010-08-03T23:52:53.522-04:002010-08-03T23:52:53.522-04:00Having lived near Fort kochi for more than two de...Having lived near Fort kochi for more than two decades these nets are very familiar to me .<br />one can get live karimeen of the freshest order here witha little bargaining many times they have jumped out from the bags in the car !<br />i have wached for long hours the fascinating chinese net fishing with a setting sun in the horizoneharimohanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18105229701118099822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-16646009180218469492010-08-02T03:08:41.083-04:002010-08-02T03:08:41.083-04:00Very interesting. I have seen such nets at Kotapur...Very interesting. I have seen such nets at Kotapuram (Kodungalloor)and Azhikode (crossover to Vypin).P.N. Subramanianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01420464521174227821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-44932268923194413062010-08-01T13:39:23.063-04:002010-08-01T13:39:23.063-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Debanish Achomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11126479008728345031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-68583779323736277232010-08-01T12:55:12.368-04:002010-08-01T12:55:12.368-04:00thanks di - I stand corrected on that count. In fa...thanks di - I stand corrected on that count. In fact I think CKC's story is set around Quilon, now that I think of it..makes it clear that it traversed with the Chinese who left Quilon and came to Cochin. But they never took it on to Calicut!!!Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-10482331909133609792010-08-01T11:14:00.418-04:002010-08-01T11:14:00.418-04:00Hi, have been following your blog since quiet some...Hi, have been following your blog since quiet sometime now and have ennjoyed reading your posts immensely. However as stated in the first paragraph of your article, Chinese fishing nets are not found only in Kochi.. they are definitely found and still very much used in Kollam (Quilon). I have seen many in and around Prakulam/Ashtamudi areas along the Ashtamudi Kayal.dihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00051708291252445062noreply@blogger.com