tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post7129728272231381960..comments2024-03-29T07:33:28.345-04:00Comments on Maddy's Ramblings: George Orwell & IndiaMaddyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-91213478318464295792018-09-30T20:17:55.223-04:002018-09-30T20:17:55.223-04:00yes, joyce and silver are the people mentioned in ...yes, joyce and silver are the people mentioned in all the biographies... nothing about churchill that i have heard about... who says it`s churchill.... if he had a role, that would be most interestingAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17888585107803993623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-20865121671769424252018-09-28T11:23:51.948-04:002018-09-28T11:23:51.948-04:00I perused this further and found that the two offi...I perused this further and found that the two officers who sabotaged the Pioneer job possibility were AH Joyce and CH Silver from information & intelligence. Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-26174003486799828162018-09-28T11:07:31.811-04:002018-09-28T11:07:31.811-04:00I did not myself - that came from Nasir Abid at th...I did not myself - that came from Nasir Abid at this link<br />http://www.orwelltoday.com/indiaorwell.shtmlMaddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-2998531807935050462018-09-27T20:52:58.402-04:002018-09-27T20:52:58.402-04:00delighted to hear that, maddy.... are you sure tha...delighted to hear that, maddy.... are you sure that some scholar claims that churchill stepped in personally and opposed orwell`s editorship at the pioneer.... how did you come up with shelden`s book in the first place.... johnAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17888585107803993623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-2285833584478457262018-09-25T14:24:08.040-04:002018-09-25T14:24:08.040-04:00Thanks John,
This was penned hastily so long ago a...Thanks John,<br />This was penned hastily so long ago and needs a rewrite and more research.<br />Your comment prompts me to do it, I will revert Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-34085145631684817222018-09-17T21:03:52.990-04:002018-09-17T21:03:52.990-04:00i enjoyed the observations. but something must be...i enjoyed the observations. but something must be wrong about orwell and the lucknow pioneer, esp regarding churchill, who was not PM til 1940.... and was out of office at the time of the lucknow offer.... i checked shelden, and i don`t recall that he claims that churchill stepped in, certainly not as PM<br /><br />are you sure that you read this in shelden... i doubt that crick or meyers or Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17888585107803993623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-13747231626256836142018-09-17T21:03:24.752-04:002018-09-17T21:03:24.752-04:00i enjoyed the observations. but something must be...i enjoyed the observations. but something must be wrong about orwell and the lucknow pioneer, esp regarding churchill, who was not PM til 1940.... and was out of office at the time of the lucknow offer.... i checked shelden, and i don`t recall that he claims that churchill stepped in, certainly not as PM<br /><br />are you sure that you read this in shelden... i doubt that crick or meyers or Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17888585107803993623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-45317220533117137982017-10-08T08:58:12.151-04:002017-10-08T08:58:12.151-04:00Hi Richard,
I recall that i got that comment about...Hi Richard,<br />I recall that i got that comment about Churchill's involvement from a newspaper clip, but cant locate it. It is perhaps not quite factual because Churchill was in 1922 not having the authority and secondly as you rightly said, Orwell opted for the Burma police. So that needs to be edited out.<br />Thanks for your pointer!!!Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-17798524005973335142017-09-22T03:22:22.550-04:002017-09-22T03:22:22.550-04:00Richard,
I will get back to you in a bit.been a w...Richard, <br />I will get back to you in a bit.been a while since i wrote this, need to crosscheck,<br />rgds<br />Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-15859774593262977312017-09-22T00:21:42.843-04:002017-09-22T00:21:42.843-04:00It's also worth noting that Orwell was very an...It's also worth noting that Orwell was very anti-imperialist, lumping imperialism together with fascism and Soviet Communism as one of the terrible wrongs in the world. I hadn't known about his father forcing Indian peasants to grow opium, but that would certainly tie in with why Orwell did not get on with his father.<br /><br />I personally think "Burmese Days", his Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01108726570855836963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-28681470014995454962017-09-22T00:14:02.396-04:002017-09-22T00:14:02.396-04:00Are you sure about Orwell not working for the Indi...Are you sure about Orwell not working for the Indian police due to his socialism, and Churchill's warnings? He was only 18 at the time, and unknown, so it sounds unlikely. I might be wrong, of course!<br /><br />I thought he chose the Burmese police because his grandmother lived in Burma.<br />He left in 1927, long before working for the BBC.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01108726570855836963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-55310439428391666182008-12-09T14:50:00.000-05:002008-12-09T14:50:00.000-05:00Thanks narendra, Murali & RajiMurali - I was t...Thanks narendra, Murali & Raji<BR/><BR/>Murali - I was told that Burmese days is very interesting. However knowing very little about the place, I have been hesitating about looking for that book.<BR/><BR/>Raji - Yup the big brother thing is catching on. Hope the people policing us are on the right moral plain anyway.Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18163804773843409980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-69681731572331289642008-12-07T10:29:00.000-05:002008-12-07T10:29:00.000-05:00Nice one, Maddy. I rather used to like his 1984, a...Nice one, Maddy. I rather used to like his 1984, and when the year actually came, nothing happened...<BR/> I am sure almost everyone knows that the 'Big Brother is Watching' phrase originally came from this book.RAJI MUTHUKRISHNANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09767924355822361427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-43683406499456640822008-12-07T07:55:00.000-05:002008-12-07T07:55:00.000-05:00Good writing, Maddy. Reading it brought back memor...Good writing, Maddy. Reading it brought back memories of my "New Delhi days" of the 80's when I read Orwell's less known book "My Burmese Days" loaned from the British library . I would want to read it again! I never knew about his acquaintance with Krishna Menon. Thanks for the informative post.Murali RamaVarmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08048053577294406031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29462524.post-1754530943127016032008-12-07T05:21:00.000-05:002008-12-07T05:21:00.000-05:00I'm a big Orwell fan. Enjoyed this postI'm a big Orwell fan. Enjoyed this postNarendra shenoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00435746867801885684noreply@blogger.com